These have the cloth surround on the woofers, which would indicate that it was a manufacture date of 1969 or earlier. These have had the woofer surround resealed, the crossovers rebuilt, and the tweeters replaced with the suggested HIVI replacement tweeters. The cabinets have dings and scrapes as the pictures will show as well as one corner crush as highlighted in one of the pics. The corner damage is in the upper right rear of one of the speakers. It is not structural, only cosmetic, and if they are in a bookshelf, you will never see it. They are fully functional and have that wonderful AR sound that nothing else ever really duplicated.